Tuesday, January 25, 2011

Panty Chat

Even though Alexandre and I have a questionably legal cable box with about 75 channels, I still often find myself hard pressed to find something good to watch on TV (I mean, a girl can only take so much "Two and a Half Men," and Animal Planet's “Baby Planet” is only on once in a while ). I have a general rule against dubbed (unless it's a documentary), and, well, I'm a snob. 

Anyway, my channel surfing led me into a rip tide of late-night television in the form of Papo Calcinha.  This is a Brazilian show whose name translates to "Panty Chat". Now, it may sound like it's one of those secret porn reality shows, but it's not (but only because they're dressed). Papo Calcinha is a sort of slutty, younger version of “The View.” Just like “The View,” the show has a token black girl and also a token lesbian (you know, because the show is so progressive). It's basically just a bunch of biscates my age all overdone and overdressed, sitting in the living-room-style TV set and justifying their sluttyness by insisting upon "universal truths" about men and women (things like, "all men are smart about attracting women, but we are smarter about attracting them!").  

It's a room full of women talking over each other, talking out of their asses, throwing out incorrect English words and phrases to sound cool, and acting like the terms "slut" and "progressive feminist" are synonyms... in other words, my worst nightmare.  

Some of the girls are from Rio, so I learned some valuable Carioca slang, like the super common use of the super word "super".  One of the girls was talking about some guy she f*%^ed, and she said, "a gente super ficou!" What does that even mean?!?!  

On top of that, I learned the verb "facebookiar", which the linguist in me couldn't help but like a little.

The girls' conversation was also a good lesson in 
turn taking, which, as every second language learner knows, is difficult to pick up when you're immersed in the culture of your new language. "Panty Chat" taught me that, apparently, the Brazilian way to maintain your turn in the conversation and to keep people from interrupting you is to reach your arm out and SNAP AT THEM if they utter a sound so that they shut up and you can finish your story about how your friend wanted to get with your ex-boyfriend and you thought it just wasn't cool at all. 

I'm mostly sad that my language learning skills are wasted on this kind of Portuguese. I still can't understand my bank statements, but I can understand everything these shameless whores are saying. 

I agree that perhaps it'd be nice if there was some female version of sports commentary shows, but, please, Globo Network. This is not it. Talking about her sex life on national TV and making the first (and second, and third...) move every time doesn't make a woman "modern".  If you want a show about progressive, modern-day women, make a show about women multi-tasking like woah and rocking it at all kinds of normal life things, like studying, working and moving up in their careers, maintaining a house and a family, taking care of all of the bureaucracy-related things in their household, remembering everything that the men in their lives forget, filling about 15 different roles at once, AND most important of all, not kissing and telling.

An honest-to-goodness modern day woman doesn't brag about how many guys she's slept with. She doesn't reduce a relationship down to the man's penis size. She doesn't pretend that she's having sex with all these random guys just because she likes sex.

These kinds of women on Papo Calcinha are the opposite of a modern woman. They are still focusing all of their attention on men, and defining themselves by their history with men. One girl told a story about how she pined after a guy for 6 months before he finally gave her the time of day, and then at Carnival, she threw herself at him and he agreed to have sex. She went to study abroad, and he promptly started dating one of her friends. So where's the modernity in that? The girl was still chasing after a guy that ignored her, and she thought she was successful for finally getting him to sleep with her, and didn't realize that she wanted the relationship and then just got desperate for ANY kind of attention and settled for just the sex. 

It's just this nasty shameful storm of mixed messages and hypocrisy and superficiality. It's women saying that they have nothing better to think about than their underwear. 

Shows like these make me want to just stop watching TV all together. Ok, not all together. If I still have Animal Planet's "Baby Planet", I'll be fine.

15 comments:

  1. Thank goodness my portuguese has not graduated to the level of understanding this crap. I love how the camera man zooms in on their boobs every few moments too... Id rather watch Big Brother.. equally as ridiculous but more entertaining!

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  2. I agree with you. I think unfortunately, these woman are facing some serious issues with self oppression. Sadly, they seemed to have fooled themselves into thinking they are empowered. I usually stay away from commenting on shows or articles I haven't read or seen.... but there is this subculture of women in Brazil.

    Empowerment first comes from awareness of a problem.... but a really complex understanding of it. I am sure most girls learn real quick about the social standing of females in society. For me, it was when I was told that I couldn't be in major league baseball player at 6 and didn't quite understand. The awareness needs to go a little further than that- gender is anything but simple.

    The male gaze. Many feminist theorists refer to the work of Foucault's panoptic view. The theory was first seen in prison systems, the guards have a 180˚ view of prisoners. Causing changed behavior in the prisoners, because the people thought they were being watched 24/7. Now, social scientists use this in many areas.

    I think in Brazil the male gaze is on steroids. Also, the land of hyper- masculinity and femininity. So definitely Foucault's panoptic view could enlighten the behavior of these women, who are confused. I think people make assumptions about feminism or make their own definition from mainstream media. But usually the information in the mainstream is all twisted.

    Mostly, I feel sorry for them. How could they be happy? I feel sad just watching them. I feel sad for the men here too (ok, almost everyone--everywhere makes me sad). People think they have escaped oppression and are in control.

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  3. Danielle,

    I could stomack only part of that "sluts" fest on the Globo channel. You are right, they only talk about men, they are the typical slutty bimbo with an empty head.
    If you ask them anything about politics or civil rights they would probably have a blank stare on their faces...
    There was a popular show on REDE GLOBO during the 80's called TV MULHER, it was very progressive and inteligent, they talked about civil rights, sex, fashion, politics, there were no sluts talking about how to get a man. I remember even hearing discussion about GAY rights, that was almost unheard of at the time...
    One of the ladies who spoke on TV MULHER was Martha Suplicy, she was the Psychologist sex expert, a very popular segment.
    She is a Senator today and she is one of the biggest fighters of the Brazilian gay rights movement ( she is straight by the way ).
    Martha Suplicy introduced the same sex marriage law in the Brazilian Congress for the first time in 1996, it hasn't even gone to a vote up to this day...it is still an uphill battle.
    Back in the day she talked about sex, not like the sluts on the "Calcinhas" panty talk show, but she answered questions from callers like "Can I have sex with my husband during pregnacy"? "My husband cheated on me with his best friend, Is he GAY? type of questions...
    Marilia Gabriela was also on the show and she is still on TV today. The show had many different segments and it was very popular. I never understood why they went off the air.
    I think the Ana Braga Show, the super blond woman with the silly stupid parrott is TV MULHER's replacement in the same time slot.
    I think watching ( or avoiding ) Brazilian TV will be one of our biggest challenges when going back home :(


    Ray

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  4. Not surprising among these dondocas on tv. Sad, but true. Like Jana, I am glad I don't understand that level of Portuguese, either. Shows in the US are not any better ie:Bad Girls Club, etc. Dumbing down worldwide. These women are not feminists, in my opinion. What is so empowering? I could go on.

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  5. How disgusting. I can assure you that American TV isn't doing much better nowadays.

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  6. Seu blog é muito interessante. Parabéns! Felicidades e sucesso!
    http://nelsonsouzza.blogspot.com
    Rio de Janeiro/Brasil

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  7. Pegou! Sheesh. LOL Danielle, I love the juxtaposition of Lonely Planet and this silliness!

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  8. Hahha, I just found a Spanish show to help me practice. I like it because it's 30 minutes and it's a complete show (ie. not a soap or sitcom). It's called Decisiones, which silly me, thought might be about life's tough choices. After all, it's shown at 6 p.m. dinner time. So a nice wholesome family show, right? of course not! lol.
    The first episode I watched dealt with a woman who tries to get her cheating husband back by having a 3-some with him and the woman he's cheating with. WTF?!
    At least I'm learning some new vocab though! hehehhe

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  9. What? You mean you want to switch up the Sony channel? I think 2.5 Men comes on the Sony channel if I remember right.

    Except, I like the talk of that show :)

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  10. My favourite part of this blog is how you slipped in "Multi-tasking like whoa"

    hahaha, you always slip those hilarious one-liners in and I wonder if others are catching them?

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  11. Holy Crap! That is depressing! Facebookear?? I never heard people saying that.

    Although people from different social classes have access to cable tv, many of Multishow and GNT shows depict the lives and perspectives of people from upper middle-class, especially Rio and SP. I am not saying that everybody from this social class agrees with this show or have the same opinions, but many do.
    What gets to me is how this is sold as cool and progressive while if it had the same kind of girls (slutty girls), but from a lower class, like the favelas. It would labeled as vulgar and ghetto. Just hypocritical to me.

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  12. You make an excellent point, Fabio.

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  13. Interesting post, Danielle.

    Yeah, you don't want to understand it, it's a bit crap. These women encompass what is being called the Female Chauvanist Pig.

    http://www.ariellevy.net/books.php?article=2

    And sad, it is. There is a show on Globo which is kinda similar to Panty Chat, it's called Amor e Sexo.

    http://amoresexo.globo.com/videos/
    (you have to be a Globo subscriber to see the first video only, the rest you can watch, I think)

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  14. Pretty cool post, Danielle.
    Someone here commented about the close ups on the boobs. My American husband is always impressed by what he calls "bunda cam", this obsession with capturing everything that happens under a girl's Equator. Apparently, boobs are the new hot thing on Brazilian TV.

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  15. If the Female Chauvinist Pig link isn't working, you can try this

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/18/books/review/18egan.html

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