There are actually a ton of posts I've wanted to write lately, but I just haven't had time to get caught up on the vacation stuff, let alone my other musings (I have a feeling the vacations posts will soon fall by the wayside). But I had a depressing experience on Friday and I wanted to tell you all about it.
I call my experience, "The Brazilian Small-Town Teenager: A Case Study."
On Friday, I went back to Caipirópolis to go to a bridal shower and then to a baby shower. When I got on the bus, there was no one next to me, but a teenage girl got on at the next stop. She was crying pretty heavily. At first I was worried about her, so when she struck up a conversation (about nothing related to her crying, which was a little awkward), I felt bad for her and made small talk in case she wanted to talk about whatever was making her cry (NB: I hate small talk).
This was a mistake. It turns out she had only been crying because she was sad to say goodbye to her family, and the amount of crying was perhaps disproportionate to the gravity of the event. I should've just pretended that I didn't speak Portuguese, or I should've been rude and ignored her from the get-go. The girl didn't stop talking for the ENTIRE bus ride (almost 6 hours!). Even when I pulled out my Kindle and started giving her curt answers, she didn't catch on.
But I learned a lot about this girl and her town during our extensive conversation, and let me tell you -- it was information I would have just rather not had. I like to think that the world is a good place, that there's hope for the future and for the next generation, and this girl really sucked some of that optimism out of me. (And now I'll pass this information on to you, dear reader. How nice of me.)
The girl was from a town just outside of Caipirópolis. She was 14 or 15 (in her first year of high school, she told me) but looked about 19 or 20. She told me she'd been visiting her aunt and her cousin and was now going home to go back to school. She informed me that she hated school. Teenagers all over the world say that; I wasn't too fazed. She also made a comment about how the last bus driver she'd had was a lesbian, and how lesbians are "gross". (I saw a connection between the two comments -- hating school and judging gay people, I mean.) I asked her why she thought lesbians were gross. Her answer was, "because they are!" I asked, "but why?" again, and she couldn't give me an answer, and I told her so. But she just wasn't getting it. She quickly changed the topic.
At first, I was pleasantly surprised that this girl didn't ask me where I was from. I thought at first that my accent from her region must really be spot on, though I don't pronounce a lot of words the way she does -- for example, I don't pronounce brava as "braba," nor do I switch my [r]s and [l]s to result in words like "plobema" and "vortar". I also use plural nouns, and not just plural articles (so I say things like as casas and not "as casa"). I know I'm a linguist and I'm not supposed to make
It's so hot on this bus! Ninguém merece!
This drive is taking forever! Ninguém merece!
But then she said, "Ugh, but school, you know? Ninguém merece!"
I said, "na verdade, todo o mundo merece!" (Actually, everyone deserves it!) I was pretty proud of my wit there, but the girl just stared at me blankly, which was her response to about 80% of what I said during the trip.
She proceeded to tell me the kicker of our conversation. A real shocker of a story. Apparently, in her town, there were 2 types of public schools: state-run K-12 schools and city-run K-12 schools. (I've heard of this in a few Brazilian cities -- from what I understand, cities implement their own schools to supplement the poorly-invested-in state public schools.) Anyway, because the state public schools didn't have any money, they tried cutting corners by canceling schools on Wednesdays and extending vacation times from 2 weeks to 4 weeks.
Now, what we, hopeful, optimistic citizens would EXPECT to see would be protests from state school parents, or a mass exodus of state school kids to the city-run school. But guess what happened instead. Did you guess? I'll go ahead and tell you: the parents from the city-run schools complained that it "wasn't fair" that their kids had to go to school more than the kids from the state-run schools. They complained and complained (and probably used ninguém merece a lot) until the city-run school reduced its hours to meet the state school schedule.
Just take that in for a minute.
Now if that information doesn't totally depress you, I don't know what will. Every book and study I've read about poverty and social action programs and all that has found that improvements to infrastructure and social assistance are most productive at the city level. But here's an example of a city government honestly trying to provide something for its community, and the citizens just flat-out rejecting it out of pure laziness. There's no other explanation I can think of. I was so, so sad when the girl told me that. The only way I can recuperate any optimism would be to think that maybe she was wrong, or that I misunderstood her. But I don't think either of those things are likely to be true.
Later into the conversation, I realized that she hadn't asked me where I was from because she honestly couldn't grasp the concept of another country, or someone being from one. I don't know if she even registered the mistakes I was making in Portuguese. At one point, she asked if I'd preferred living in Caiprópolis or Crappy Beach Town, and I explained that I was from the US, so at first Caipriópolis felt small and crappy but then once I left it, I appreciated it. Again, more blank stares about the US comment.
A few minutes later, she said, "You're from the United States? Um...so...that means your family doesn't live here?"
"Yes," I replied.
"Weird."
Then she was telling me a story about some party she'd gone to, and that she'd met a little girl who was "durka." I thought it was a word I didn't know.
"Durka?" I asked "What does durka mean?"
The girl had apparently heard the word for the first time at that party, and didn't really know what it meant. She struggled to answer me. "Well, um... you know....she wasn't exactly Brazilian, like me. She didn't have 'the Brazilian way about her.'"
I thought for a moment.
"Turka?" I asked. Turka is the feminine form of the adjective "Turkish." "Was she from Turkey?"
The girl shrugged. "That must have been it. I don't know."
Ughhhhhh
I'm just gonna go ahead and state the obvious here: maybe if the girl spent more time at the school her city tried to give her, she wouldn't be functionally retarded.
But yeah. I hope the girl is an extreme example of "The Brazilian Small-Town Teenager" and not an average.
Unfortunately, much of the rest of the weekend was filled with dead fish conversations with other small-town women ("so how do you know the bride?" "Oh, I'm her friend") and equally asinine comments from people at the parties, such as the following:
- Why are plane tickets so expensive? All you do is sit there!
- My baby is 2 and isn't talking yet, but it's fine. Every baby is different!
- Everyone who comes to this city gets the flu. Why, I saw a woman on the news who said she'd been here for 2 weeks and she got the flu!
I just cringed and tried to nod politely at the first comments (no reason to try to teach people about economics or developmental milestones), but there was one exceptionally ignorant woman who really did me in. There was a woman at one of the parties who was a math professor at a local university. When she mentioned it at the table, a woman of about 50 said:
"Oh my god! Why do you teach math?! Math is impossible! Math is for men's brains."
"No it's not." I said rudely. I'd been kind of quiet, so the women looked over at me.
"Men's and women's brains are the same. The only reason women think they can't learn math is because other people tell them that it's something only men should study. Maybe if women didn't tell other women that math was too hard for them, then they'd be better at it, don't you think?"
As always, I got blank cow-eyed stares from the person in question, but at least the math teacher was smiling. (She also diplomatically responded to the older woman with "well, there ARE more men in the department than women.")
I can barely tolerate regular stupidity, but women putting down women is where I draw the line. There was also a teenage girl at the table, and I wanted her to hear a counter-argument to that woman's statement.
It was really nice to see a few of my friends and to celebrate the upcoming wedding and the upcoming baby, but all in all, it was kind of a frustrating weekend, and I lost a little faith in humanity and felt kind of old and isolated.
I'll leave you with some Joanna, in case this post made you feel the way I did. She always helps me out:
Maybe you meant to say that you don't make prescriptivist judgments?
ReplyDeleteEither way, I'd also have harshly judged both of those characters you had to deal with. It's unfortunate that they exist everywhere. Hang tough (:
Love reading your blog, always very informative, please keep writing. As you do, please be sensitive to the fact that the people you describe as 'retarded' or less than astute on matters of child rearing might actually have learning disabilities or cognitive impairments that were never identified or addressed by the schools and that could result in their appearing 'slow' or lazy.
ReplyDeleteCheers,
P.s. - cow-eyed 'stares'
Thanks for the comment, but I was using the word "retarded" here in a clinical sense -- I honestly think that this girl was perhaps lacking in cognitive abilities, though not necessarily from a birth defect or a learning disability -- she herself was saying how she thinks school is boring, dumb, unnecessary, etc. I had to study some child development in college, and she didn't have any of the features of someone who was born retarded (slow to respond, etc). I also talked about many different people in this blog, and the people who made the child-rearing comments were nowhere near retarded: just continuing with cultural beliefs and not questioning anything and choosing the easier way to handle things (i.e., believing that her son's lack of speech was "normal" was easier than getting him help for it).
DeleteAlso, thanks for pointing out the typo! I fixed it. :)
Homophobes are also very common among middle and upper class in Brazil, if you did not realized yet in your social group: the are many gays that do not assume public their sexuality because their rich parents would ban them for all economic support like paying for the life as they study in another city.
ReplyDeleteAs for very low educated people, I am originally from a very poor family and can tell you: most of them do not have enough food and starting working when they are kids to survive, therefore some like my older sister can not do both school and work and they did not even finish middle school grad 5-8! Besides, the schools are in terrible condition and not really help people learn something. All I wish for my home country is a revolution is this education system.
I agree with you, Ana Flavia, but I don't think you can deny a correlation between education levels and homophobia, even if it's not a 1:1 correlation.
DeleteI am also aware of the very extreme levels of poverty in this country, but that was not the case with this girl. She had just gone on a month-long vacation to visit family and spent most of her time shopping; she took a relatively expensive bus to get there and home; she had a smart phone; and she told me how much she loves going to rodeos and how she was going to one in the region the next day, how she'd found a ride for only 10 reais and how she'd gotten tickets for only R$75 because her uncle knew a guy involved. She mentioned that her parents and grandparents give her money, but that sometimes she helps out a woman in town with a salon for extra cash. So no, she's not some teenager who will be forced to drop out of school to help her family, so I think her lack of investment in school is caused by something else.
Ah. It is disheartening. There's a girl in my classes like that. Her family's very wealthy and she seems to be out_of_it but not officially impaired.
ReplyDeleteFor example, she's in my classes for 6 months now, and asked me last night where I learned English. Keep in mind, this is the class where we are talking about taking a group trip to the US in 2014.
Her friend turned to her and said "NAO ACREDITO! PARA COM ISSO!!!" To which clueless girl shrugged.
We have city run elementary school, the state schools don't start until 3rd grade. But the parents here are pretty good about demanding more and better education. they make protests with the Ministry of Education regularly when things are not to their liking.
Small town, small mind. It's a phenomenon that happens in most small towns across the globe, including the one that I currently live in.
ReplyDeleteI hate to disagree, but I actually don't think education and homophobia are 100% correlated. My town has one of the top school districts in the country. I know a lot of kids who are going to college at Harvard, MIT, and Princeton. I go to one of the ghettoest schools out of the bunch from my town, and my university is everything but a bad school.
The group of people that I knew from High School are some of the most racist, ignorant, homophobic and lazy people that I've ever met. Like the girl on the bus, they can hardly grasp the concept of leaving my 20 square mile town...they get panicked when they leave the state and can't even THINK of going outside of the country.
I told one someone who lives here that after I'm done my internship, I'm going to Mexico for vacation. His response was...'whoa..you're adventurous! Aren't you afraid to go there? How do you even communicate? Does anyone speak English there? I don't know if I would ever be brave enough to do that..Mexico is bad, real bad."
All of this comes from a town where the median income is about $100,000 USD, the average home costs over half a million dollars, and where the percentage of adults with a college degree is probably a good (conservative) 70-80%.
I think tolerance and education doesn't come from school, per se, but rather from your life experiences and what you've been exposed to. It makes sense if you go to a small town in the middle of nowhere that people are going to be small minded. Go to a big city, and the chances of seeing such outright ignorance are drastically lower.
So basically what I'm trying to say is: Schooling and Education don't have much to do with accepting people who are different than yourself. It has more to do with compassion and understanding of people who are different. You can't teach people to have compassion.
Sounds like the young lady is Catholic, which is the most common religion in Brazil.
ReplyDeleteNOOOOOO! Please don't be hopeless, there is a lot of hope for Brazilian youth.
ReplyDeleteLet's keep in mind that one semi retarded, conservative, redneckish, idiot teenager is not at all a good sample of the future of Brazil, and much less Sao Paulo.
The state has 48 million people, many more Paulistas and Brazilians are having access to education and even higher education, it is only getting better.
Let's just keep this as a sad incident on a bus ride to Caipiropolis.
Lot's of HOPE, we will have a great future and I have no doubt about it.
Abracos
:)
Ray
The lack of interest in education really is disheartening. I was just talking to my student who owns a pre-vestibular school...he was telling me he likes to give trainings, seminars, continuing educations classes, etc to his employees: teachers, secretaries, cleaning staff, to help them continue to move on and up in the world. But when he offers them (for free!), they don't want anything to do with it! It's a burden, why should they have to do that? I think it's a really sad mindset. :(
ReplyDeleteSo, I don't get it... African American Vernacular is okay, but regional Brazilian dialects aren't?
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